Rosemary and Rue Read-Along Week No.4

Rosemary and Rue Read-Along

This Read-Along of Rosemary and Rue was arranged by Lisa at Over the Effing Rainbow. This book has been sitting on my TBR pile forever, and I figured now was a good time to read it along with other people! This is the final week’s questions, but there are plans to continue to the next book. If you’re interested in joining this Read-Along, visit the SF/F Read-Along group for more information and to join the discussion.

Rosemary and Rue

And oh, yes, there will be blood… er… spoilers…

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schedule

Week 1: Saturday 9th January, Chapters 1-6, hosted by Over the Effing Rainbow
Week 2: Saturday 16th January, Chapters 7-14, hosted by Lynn at Lynn’s Books
Week 3: Saturday 23rd January, Chapters 15-20, hosted by Anya at On Starships and Dragonwings
Week 4: Saturday 30th January, Chapters 21-End, hosted by Over the Effing Rainbow

Questions

1. On the way to finding Evening’s killer at last, we get to meet the Luidaeg in person. What are your impressions of her, and what do you think of the sneaky ‘deal’ Toby managed to make with her?

I like her, but I usually do like those kind of characters. I just finished The Bees last night, and the Spiders in that book made me think of her, which should probably be pretty scary. It seems more like she’s terrifying because others are terrified of her and what she represents for their people. I’m not going to say she’s probably not a scary person, but it seems much of the fear is rooted in hate and prejudiced which she responds to by being, I don’t want to say antagonistic… Maybe upfront, uncaring about what they think, and truthful are better words. There’s no reason to soften who you are in her case because she already knows the score. I think the deal was really smart of Toby and shows how she thinks quick on her feet, but with her former occupation, that’s a requirement, I suppose. I always think things like this will probably bite characters in the ass, so…  I liked the dynamics between the Luidaeg and Toby as well. The glimpses of their kin’s histories was fascinating. I can’t wait to see where that goes.

2. Next stop is the Court of Cats, where we see Tybalt in his role as a king, followed by another visit to Lily to finally learn the truth. We get some more evidence of the regard they both have for Toby; in light of previous discussions about Toby’s friendships, what do you make of this new evidence?

The Court of the Cats seems… fun… LOL. Before kids, those would’ve been my kind of people… sort of… Toby has good friends looking after her whether she thinks she deserves them or not. Obviously, given how she’s treated from the highest court to a cabbie, people have plenty of respect for her, and she seems to have endeared herself more than she thinks with the magic community. Some of those relationships run deeper than she thinks. I know she’s going through a rough time, but people can only be in your corner for so long before you have to get the help you need, open your eyes, and accept that they’re with you on this journey. You’re not alone, and their is no reason to think that. Toby is pretty independent, but look how quickly she ran back to the unhealthy relationship to seek help over some of the others. There’s an argument to be made that she was just working under “the end justifies the means” logic with him. However, there’s no reason for me to believe that Devin’s life meant any less to her than any of the others’ lives, and it was pretty obvious where her feelings were. It seemed to be okay for her to lean on him in a destructive relationship like that, but less okay to lean on people who probably mostly have your best interests at heart.

Also… you just happened to have some cats, huh, Toby? That could take you to Tybalt. She came back to you, huh, Tybalt? She came back to YOU.

Katara

I see you two!

 

3. Now for the final reveal! Devin ‘fesses up, and Dare is killed defending Toby… Was any of this finale what you’d expected? What do you make of Devin’s reasons for killing Evening?

There weren’t too many leads on who it could be. I know there was Ray acting as the red herring, I suppose. I never much suspected Ray, so I figured it was going to be the obvious choice or it was going to be the least-obvious choice. In my mind, that boiled down to two people, in order of obvious and least-obvious, Devin and Connor. Devin because he seemed cutthroat enough to do it it. Connor because he just comes off as a great big ol’ man baby. I had to think about Devin’s reason for killing her. On one hand, I was thinking, “That’s it?” On the other, people have manipulated others and killed for less, and it didn’t really seem out of character for him from Toby’s previous description. I don’t know if I’d expected him to be so fanciful and fanatical about the idea because he seemed more practical than that, a man that would deal in absolutes rather than maybes. However, I guess, when faced with certain realities you’d rather not face, you can get lost in your head. Poor Dare. I really liked her and her brother. I really wanted both of them to have their happy ending, especially her because she seemed to be willing to do anything to make sure they ended up safe and protected.

4. The hope chest is given over to the Queen at the end of the story. In light of what we’ve seen of her and the potential power that the hope chest has (regardless of what it does), do you think this was the right thing for Toby to do?

Well, going on Toby’s logic, it was the right thing to do. In this case, though, since she really does want to keep it away from herself and it’s obvious she isn’t in any ambiguous possible romantic precursor period as she is with a certain Cat king, it probably is the best choice since the Queen really does seem to dislike her greatly. I don’t know if that was the smartest decision (only time will tell), but it was probably the right decision for this current situation.

Additional Thoughts

Please stand by as I sob quietly to myself about my Tybalt/Toby ship sailing. I will go down with this ship. I won’t put my hands up and surrender. There will be no white flag above my door. I’m singing that in my best Dido voice, which isn’t very good.

Go Down With This Ship

I will go down with this ship. Now let’s see how long it takes to break my heart.

With these words “Who did I know that would start barking like a seal if you hurt him?” Connor was officially put into “delicate precious baby 90% of the time” category, even if he did save her life. She did say his people were mostly gentle right. I bet he keeps his skin smooth with Johnson & Johnson’s Lavender Scented Baby Lotion. This could change, and I’m not faulting him for being gentle. It’s just the way she wrote him was gentle in a chuckle-worthy way. Again, nothing wrong with gentle men at all, but there’s a fine line between gentle men and seemingly mocking gentleness in a man. I’m hoping it doesn’t go over into mocking because right now it’s just amusing. That end scene, though, with the Connor and the water confirmed my suspicion that she is acting much like a trauma victim. I was literally (yes, literally) arguing with the narrator when Toby forgot that Connor was a selkie. (I’m glad she pointed out she forgot… Otherwise…) Which brings me to my next rambling point, I loved that she used the fact that selkies have seductive power over human women and Toby’s humanness to show a little of how that relationship probably really happened, even though Connor is supposed to be cute and all.

Poor twins. Poor, poor twins.

Favorite Quote

So she’s back again, said Tybalt’s voice, soft in my mind’s ears. Lost and gone for so long, and now she’s come back to us, now she’s come back to me . . .

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My heart can’t handle it right now.

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Tiara

 

12 Comments on “Rosemary and Rue Read-Along Week No.4”

  1. Yeah, Devin, I didn’t really see it coming tbh – maybe he was the most obvious choice, although Raysel and the Queen were also acting plenty crazy. What a scumbag – he even resumed a relationship with Toby when all along planning this. I think Toby has self-worth issues at the moment which is probably why she would turn to him in the first place when there seems to be such better alternatives to go to for help.
    I loved the Court of Cats and want to see more – or perhaps I just want some more Tybalt in my life right now – grrr.
    Connor does come across as a big softie – I like him and I’m glad he wasn’t the baddie – although that would have been totally jaw dropping.
    Lynn 😀

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    • First, <3333333 Tybalt! I really want to see more of how that court works. LOL.

      Now, with the fawning out of the way. There just weren't many too many characters to suspect. I don't think I could ever really suspect Ray because I didn't really see what she stood to gain from it. I didn't know what Connor would stand to gain from it either until he admitted that he needed power and political leverage, which I didn't know if there was something to be found in her Knowe or whatever that could help with that.

      I figured Devin was the most obvious because there's always something to gain from devious things in his perspective. I forgot all about the Hope Chest, so when that came up, I thought, "Well, duh, Tiara." Well, that was his something to gain, even if I forgot about it. LOL. That's a good spin thinking about it from a self-worth angle and feeling that was maybe what she deserved for everything that happened and that she feels responsible for.

      I like Connor. I'm really glad that he wasn't the bad guy, though I did worry there for a second while he was in the Knowe with Toby. He just reminded me of a goofball who would probably faint if you breathed on him angrily. If this were Scooby-Doo, he would be Shaggy for sure.

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  2. “I bet he keeps his skin smooth with Johnson & Johnson’s Lavender Scented Baby Lotion.” *Dies laughing* The thing about Connor for me is that you can’t forget about that other 10% of the time… I will censor myself there, but yes. I loved that whole “barks like a seal if you hurt him” bit. Makes me giggle every time.

    And I knew you’d get that Tybalt line! 😀 MY HEART. MY EMOTIONS.

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    • I have to give Connor his props where they’re due. He stepped up when the time came, but mostly, she’s managed to make me think he is too precious for this world. I’ll see how this does or doesn’t change in the next books.

      ❤ Tybalt. *cries softly* LOL.

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  3. I can see that Team Tybalt is growing every day – which is a good thing! 🙂
    The court of cats can be fun, yes, but it can also be a dangerous, dangerous place: let’s not forget that, no matter the human guise they might choose to wear, these are FELINES.

    I can’t wait to follow your next journeys into this series 🙂

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    • As it should, he is totally deserving of it. Cats are mean and finicky. Got you! 😉 We’re reading the next book in March. Stay tuned.

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  4. I also liked that Luidaeg did not give a flying flip about what you thought of her. I’m sure that makes most people feel small and insignificant, an considering her vast age and knowledge, that might not be too far from the truth.

    Love the Dido reference.

    Connor, with the surfer dude description, does come off as a man who moisturizes often and is more prone to laying about feeding his woman grapes by hand than as any kind of warrior.

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